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- [S3008] Correspondence - Nigel Hodgson, Allsopp Genealogy; Email; 29 September 2024.
Dennis
Wow, so much detail in this document, many, many thanks for your work.
I have spotted a few details I can add on my first review, but no doubt when I start to add this detail to my Family Tree Maker software others will occur to me.
For now, initial observations, working from today backwards (I.e. the bottom of the narrative pdf).
My mum, Beatrice Allsopp died at Woodlands care Home, Wooley, Wakefield on 22 Sept 2024, Not Castleford.
My mum remarried to William Enos Moore in 1977, I think at Wakefield registry office. He is still alive, with three sons from his first marriage. No children with my mum
My mum had two sons, not one. My brother is Martin David Hodgson, born 26th March 1963 in Wakefield or Pontefract.
I was born 15 January 1961 in Manygates hospital, Wakefield, West Yorkshire.
My dad, Robert Granville Hodgson was born 19 March 1931 at Methley, died 30/12/2014 at my brother's house in Hall Green, Wakefield. Despite being divorced for 51 years, my mum and dad died within a mile of each other.
My mum told me that Hannah Booth was Arthur Alsop's 2nd wife. My ancestry tree has Alice England as his first wife, married at Gawber, Huddersfield in 1907, and a Stanley Allsopp born in Barnsley, died 1908. Alice was living with Arthur in the 1911 census in Fairburn, died 1914.
Hannah Booth may have had a child out of wedlock and adopted elsewhere, before she married Arthur Alsop in 1918, was another rumour my mum told me. Hannah was 13 years younger than Arthur which ties in with a second marriage.
Violet and Leslie (my mum's siblings) are still alive and I hope to see them on Friday at my mum's funeral.
All other siblings are dead.
Uriah married Leslie Moisley and had a boy, David Allsopp b. 1950
Nellie died very young in 1925
Wilfred died in 2008, I believe he married at least twice and I have a son called John Allsopp in my tree. Him and my dad got on well and I remember seeing him in about 1979 with my dad.
Ernest was a happy chap, married to Beryl Ward, one child Lynne Allsopp, b. 1955
Marion Allsopp married Keith Rogan, tow sons Keith b.1959, Jeffrey b.1963, died 1998
Fred Allsopp had a boy called Gary. He worked at Fryston Colliery in Castleford as a crane driver. He was a bit of an old grump. Died 1996
Violet married Bryan Byford and has three children, Darren, Heather, Craig.
Lesley married Margaret Ward, has a son Stephen b. 1962
George Albert Allsopp and my grandfather Arthur Allsopp were living in adjacent houses in the 1911 census in Fairburn, West Yorkshire. Fairburn in very close to Fryston, where Arthur moved to and had his family. Fairburn is approximately 3 miles from where I live now, so I will go find his headstone.
William Alsop, b.1885 seems to have stayed in Fulstone, at his maternal grandparents (Charlesworths), whose family name my mum mentioned as being around when she was a girl.
His brothers George and Arthur obviously moved to Fairburn, to be where the coal mining work was (Fryston colliery). I also worked in the coal mining industry in the 1970/80's and over the last two centuries it has gradually moved eastwards, working deeper seams as the Western collieries such as Huddersfield and Mirfield were worked out.
That's as far back as I can go with my memories at the moment. Once again thank you so much for your hard work and I'll be in touch as I progress this tree.
Kind regards
Nigel
On Sunday 29 September 2024 at 13:29:41 BST, Dennis Allsopp wrote:
Hi Nigel
I have been doing considerable digging over the past few days based on the new information that you gave me, working back from your mother. I think that the picture in now almost complete.
Sarah Ann Alsop, mother of Abel, married Uriah Thewlis in 1854, 20 months after Abel was born and Sarah and Uriah have a daughter Mary Thewlis who only lived 22 weeks according to her death certificate. Interesting fact; Sarah was buried the same day that her daughter was baptized, and in different churches.
There is a link to the Holmes, however. Abel gave his father as Hugh Holmes on the registration of his marriage to Ellen Charlesworth. Coincidentally, the informant at the death of Mary Thewlis (Sarah's daughter) was Lydia Holmes, nee Lydia Thewlis. Also a Hugh Holmes occupied the same land containing 11 houses owned by Abel Woodhead in Upperthong on 18 Nov 1847, as George Alsop (Sarah's uncle). I find it interesting that Abel named Hugh Holmes as his father as his mother died when he was only 3 years of age, therefore someone in the family must have known, or Hugh himself and possibly maintained a relationship with Abel.
If you can contribute anything extra it would be most appreciated.
I have attached a narrative report on what I have found and you will find that it will take you back to about 1750. Beyond that will be mainly guesswork.
Enjoy
Dennis
------ Original Message ------
From "Nigel Hodgson" < hodgsonnigel@yahoo.co.uk >
To "Dennis Allsopp" < dennis@allsoppgenealogy.com >
Date 09/27/2024 3:00:19 AM
Subject Re: Allsopp Genealogy
Dennis
Many thanks for your work so far
I suspected I had an error somewhere
My mum was Beatrice Allsopp, she was born in Fryston, Castleford 28/5/1933 and died last Sunday
Her dad was Arthur Alsop, born 1882 in Mirfield West Yorkshire
I believe his dad was Abel Alsop, born Wooldale, West Yorkshire 1852
Abel's mum (unmarried) was Sarah Ann Alsop and she may have listed Hugh Holmes as Abel's father. She died in 1855 at Woolbank
Nigel
On Thursday 26 September 2024 at 00:09:59 BST, Dennis Allsopp wrote:
Hi Nigel
It is true that the origins of the name Alsop (and the myriad of variants) originate from the village of Alsop-en-le-Dale in Derbyshire.
I have had a look at what I believe is your family but I cannot find Sarah Ann Alsop living with her dad William, mum Hannah and siblings in Wooldale in the 1851 Census, however in the 1861 census are family you mention. The siblings listed are Sam and Emily.
I have found that the William and Hannah in the 1861 census did not marry until 22 Jul 1855 therefore cannot be the William and Hannah of the 1851 Census. Is 1851 the correct year or should it be 1861? Also, in which you was your Mum born and her name to make sure that I am on the right track?
Regards
Dennis
- [S3391] UK Civil Registrations [GRO], Beatrice Allsopp; Birth; 1933; September; Pontefract; Vol. 9c; Page 128; 27 September 2024.
- [S3008] Correspondence - Nigel Hodgson, Allsopp Genealogy; Email; 30 September 2024.
{Dennis
Wow, so much detail in this document, many, many thanks for your work.
I have spotted a few details I can add on my first review, but no doubt when I start to add this detail to my Family Tree Maker software others will occur to me.
For now, initial observations, working from today backwards (I.e. the bottom of the narrative pdf).
My mum, Beatrice Allsopp died at Woodlands care Home, Wooley, Wakefield on 22 Sept 2024, Not Castleford.
My mum remarried to William Enos Moore in 1977, I think at Wakefield registry office. He is still alive, with three sons from his first marriage. No children with my mum
My mum had two sons, not one. My brother is Martin David Hodgson, born 26th March 1963 in Wakefield or Pontefract.
I was born 15 January 1961 in Manygates hospital, Wakefield, West Yorkshire.
My dad, Robert Granville Hodgson was born 19 March 1931 at Methley, died 30/12/2014 at my brother's house in Hall Green, Wakefield. Despite being divorced for 51 years, my mum and dad died within a mile of each other.
My mum told me that Hannah Booth was Arthur Alsop's 2nd wife. My ancestry tree has Alice England as his first wife, married at Gawber, Huddersfield in 1907, and a Stanley Allsopp born in Barnsley, died 1908. Alice was living with Arthur in the 1911 census in Fairburn, died 1914.
Hannah Booth may have had a child out of wedlock and adopted elsewhere, before she married Arthur Alsop in 1918, was another rumour my mum told me. Hannah was 13 years younger than Arthur which ties in with a second marriage.
Violet and Leslie (my mum's siblings) are still alive and I hope to see them on Friday at my mum's funeral.
All other siblings are dead.
Uriah married Leslie Moisley and had a boy, David Allsopp b. 1950
Nellie died very young in 1925
Wilfred died in 2008, I believe he married at least twice and I have a son called John Allsopp in my tree. Him and my dad got on well and I remember seeing him in about 1979 with my dad.
Ernest was a happy chap, married to Beryl Ward, one child Lynne Allsopp, b. 1955
Marion Allsopp married Keith Rogan, tow sons Keith b.1959, Jeffrey b.1963, died 1998
Fred Allsopp had a boy called Gary. He worked at Fryston Colliery in Castleford as a crane driver. He was a bit of an old grump. Died 1996
Violet married Bryan Byford and has three children, Darren, Heather, Craig.
Lesley married Margaret Ward, has a son Stephen b. 1962
George Albert Allsopp and my grandfather Arthur Allsopp were living in adjacent houses in the 1911 census in Fairburn, West Yorkshire. Fairburn in very close to Fryston, where Arthur moved to and had his family. Fairburn is approximately 3 miles from where I live now, so I will go find his headstone.
William Alsop, b.1885 seems to have stayed in Fulstone, at his maternal grandparents (Charlesworths), whose family name my mum mentioned as being around when she was a girl.
His brothers George and Arthur obviously moved to Fairburn, to be where the coal mining work was (Fryston colliery). I also worked in the coal mining industry in the 1970/80's and over the last two centuries it has gradually moved eastwards, working deeper seams as the Western collieries such as Huddersfield and Mirfield were worked out.
That's as far back as I can go with my memories at the moment. Once again thank you so much for your hard work and I'll be in touch as I progress this tree.
Kind regards
Nigel}
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